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is ticking and it looks like the only debt compromise on the table hits the big three really hard. but feel good about the fact that tonight john boehner was having pizza with the tea partiers. the folks that say they won't sign on to anything. congressman kucinich calls the plan a raw deal. he's here and he's fired up tonight. this is the ed show, let's get to work. >> all of the candidates are going to have to demonstrate they can do all of the job all of the time. >> tim pawlenty is taking cheap shops at a republican front-runner. tonight i'm going to defend michele bachmann. >> i'm not going to allow anyone to take a pufrmg at me. >> alan west refuses to apologize for his sexist remarks. today he says she owes him an apology. where's the outrage? >>> if you thought the defense of news corp. was odd, wait until you hear bill o'reilly's stance. >>> the president first tried to sell his plan to nancy pelosi and harry reid. and then the obstructionists came over to the white house. boehner and mk skon el. they have to convince members of their party to accept over a trillion dollars in reve
to democratic aides, a debt deal without tax increases is reportedly moving forward. tonight, the big three remain on the chopping block. democrats need to understand cutting the big three in any way is a disaster. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> democrats still say no deal without taxes. the tan man can't control his tea partiers. meanwhile, religious and civil rights leaders are personally urging the president not to cut the social safety net. reverend jim wallace met with the president. he's here tonight. in "psycho talk" el rushbo is pushing another democratic conspiracy theory. and congressman allen west voted to cut social security for his constituents and for some listen he's still attacking debbie wasserman-shultz. >> 80%. 80% of americans do not want washington to lay a finger on medicare and medicaid. that's a heck of a number. you know the nfl is about ready to do a deal. if some nfl coach said my quarterback is going to hit 80% of his passes this year, they'll say holy smokes, we're going to win the whole thing. that is a huge number. this just isn't democrats. it'
more on that later. but we begin with the big fight in washington growing more desperate as the august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches. the key question this morning will we to see any progress this weekend? we go live to the white house for more. are they working this weekend and might we expect more progress here? >> reporter: we'll to see. there's a lot of closed door negotiations. that's the phase we're in now. we're a day closer to what many experts have called a financial catastrophe, six closed door meetings that they had in the west wing. the focus turns to congress. whether or not they can reach a deal on a dramatically scaled back version, not that grand bargain, something smaller but do it in time for august 2nd when the country is due to run out of cash. taking his case public for the second time in a week, president obama accused republicans of refusing to compromise. >> the problem is members of congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements. >> reporter: with the clock ticking towards w
. that would mean republicans get big spending cuts in exchange for zero tax increases. the president vowed that that wouldn't happen. tonight let's be an honest broker and make sure he keeps his word. >> i do not see a path to a deal if they don't budge, period. >> president obama drew a line on taxes last week. republicans are running out the clock, and it looks like the president is caving. senator sheldon whitehouse is here. one of the key figures in the news corporate fox hacking scandal is found dead, and there's more trouble in the united states for rupert murdoch. filmmaker robert greenwall on the latest. in psycho talk tonight. >> yes, they have the right to do that. that's not discriminating based upon religion against their particular religion. >> republican presidential hopeful herman cain has a warped understanding of the constitution. more anti-islam remarks from the godfather's pizza man. tonight, he's attacking another candidate on his religion. remember last week everybody was saying, well, the president is in such a good place right now. really? folks, as liberals we need
republicans in this fight than grover norquist. he's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that
of different ways. by the way, this is no big secret, it's not like i'm telling you something other people can't figure out very easily. but if you have one phone call another phone it creates a busy line. if you use a third phone to call in, it goes directly to the voice mail and if you don't have a pin, it's very easy to get somebody's voice mail. >> we talked about at&t. how vulnerable are they to getting hacked and do we need to make pin numbers mandatory in order to keep all of our phones safe? >> i think that's something to think about. right now the onus is on the consumer, it's on us to be proactive with our mobile devices to put that pin on there. you think of your smartphone these days. it's really like a small laptop. in my face it's almost as big as a laptop. but you store so much personal information on there that really the companies should be doing more for users, i would say, because they're such an extension of ourselves. because there's such critical information on there. you know, i don't want to single out at&t too much because all of the wireless carriers are aware that th
. and right now we've got a government so big and so expensive it's sapping the drive out of our people and keeping our economy from running at full capacity. the solution to this crisis is not complicated. if you're spending more money than you're taking in, you need to spend less of it. >> it is so elementary and so simple for the republicans, isn't it? boehner's two-step approach is nothing but a joke. for republicans, it all starts and ends with defeating president obama and seeing him fail. just take a look at the title of boehner's plan, "two-step approach to hold president obama accountable"? president obama accountable? did he inherit this? hold it there for just a moment. boehner isn't trying to solve the debt crisis. this is all about making president obama fail. let's dive into boehner's two-step plan. here's number one. cuts, cuts that exceed the debt hike. number two, caps to control future spending. now, those two steps seem pretty reasonable. the problem? boehner's two-step plan, you see, really has three more steps to it. number three, a balanced budget amendment. now, l
'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a major distra
's bill in the senate won't pass, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze they two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do that
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. if you do nothing, you have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> h
in charge say regardless of the substance of the proposal, it's too big. there is no time to get something this big done before the august 2nd deadline. it literally cannot be passed through the senate in time even if everybody likes it. the other rainbow/sunshine problem here is the president and the senate agreeing on this or anything doesn't get you further towards raising the debt ceiling, it's not just the president and the senate, it's crazy town down the hallway too, it's john boehner's republican house, that likes the idea of the nation defaulting, that thinks the explosion of the economy might be pretty or at least warm for a second. they are not looking for a good deal or achieve particular policy objectives, regardless of what they get, they are not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. the republicans who are running for president from the house of representatives, for example, are not saying don't raise the debt ceiling unless, don't raise the debt ceiling until, they are saying don't raise the debt ceiling at all. let's see what happens. this is how republican congresswoma
. floor ads are big business across this country because -- come on, if you're a company who sells stuff? supermarkets, wouldn't you want a big, shiny floor ad like this one? a couple of years ago, a floor ad mysteriously started losing top clients. they didn't because people didn't want floor ads anymore. come on, they started losing clients because a rival company in the industry was starting to lose their clients. floor graphics was a small firm in new jersey, but a big players entered the arena, a big player with a bigger corporate parent, a company you may have heard of, news corp. news corp. had a u.s.-based company called news america marketing that was already involved in the supermarket advertising business but really wanted in on the awesome floor ads. the only problem was this small new jersey company, floor graphics, was dominating the market. you say problem, news corp. says opportunity. news corp. set its sights on taking this little company down. they had the right guy to do it, according to a fortune magazine profile, crushes a rival's skull with a baseball bat. who bette
known and they talk about it a lot in the market, and is it getting big r bigger. >> the last time we heard about it is when he bought the "wall street journal," and they said that buying into the troubled newspaper sector is a bad idea and now newspapers like "news of the world" are shuttered and parts of the business and analysts love fox news and fox network and bskyb who he wants to own the rest of it which is off of the table now because of to scandal, but if they can concentrate on the high performing assets, they are okay in the long run. news corp is not going to allow the company to be hurt in the long run, but the newspaper division, clearly wounded. >> and they could have problems going forward, because yahoo!'s daniel gross did an interesting column on this and he said that the hit to the credibility will create a different freedom for working there and harder for places that the murdoch companies own to hire good journlgists, because to get them to come over after this is that you will have to pay them extra, and more to sort of deal with the reputational problems of the
republican presidential candidates have money problems. >> and big money, big problems? >> gop fund-raisers staying on the sidelines. >> for mitt romney it's 70% maxed out contributions. >> is newt aware he's running for president? >> the arrests continue as the british police close in on rupert murdoch's media empire scandal. >> every day we're seeing more inconceivable things happen. >> abandon ship. in the last 24 hours there have been two high level resignations. zo london's top cop. >> rebekah brooks was released on jail. >> rupert murdoch is supposed to face the scandal head on tomorrow. >> all eyes are trained on parliament tomorrow. >> they're cutting short a trip today to south africa. >> when is he going to do the decent thing and resign? >> congress now has 15 days to pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling before the united states government goes into a catastrophic default on august 2nd. today harry reid announced the senate will meet every day until the debt ceiling is raised. yesterday david rogers of politico discovered and reported that house speaker john boehner and
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to our financial markets. >> that is a big statement. house democratic leadership team coming out saying that. the house has rejected the 14th amendment solution. but we're still six days out. for leaders like mr. clyburn to go down that road gives the president some pretty good cover and a pretty good idea. the president doesn't want to overreach, but his base would love it. it's going to wipe out any discretionary cuts that would hurt low and fixed income americans. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. should the president invoke the 14th amendment to resolve the debt crisis? text a for yes, b for no to 622639 and can you always go to our new blog at ed.msnbc.com. >>> joining us now is donna edwards ofç maryland. she's a member of the progressive caucus. congressman elliott engle, jared nabler are holding a press conference to urge president obama to use the 14th amendment as a backup option. would you join those folks tomorrow? what do you think about the 14th amendment option right now? the white house has said repeatedly no, but the game could change. what do y
is anything more than a big wet kiss to the right wing, and -- and i mean the tea party. that's who i mean. it's too bad his caucus is being run by such a small number of people. >> what will happen between this very moment and a potential vote tomorrow is anyone's guess in the town that is washington, d.c. amid all the bickering and tinkering, the nation is just six days away from a first ever general default, and the treasury reiterating in a statement moments ago there is no guarantee the government can meet all its obligations after an august 2nd deadline, so what are the remaining options for our dysfunctional government? nbc's kristen welker is at the white house and let's also bring in luke russert on capitol hill. kristen, we know both sides are crafting their budget deals, both trying to take the high road, but are there any signs that the differences between the two sides are narrowing, and does it seem as though they may conflate these two plans? >> reporter: well, at this point we don't have any indication that they are going to conflate the two plans. we should say there are, of c
's go now to washington. it's big news inside the beltway today. the latest debt deal broke down last night, but in just less than two hours now, lawmakers are iffing to be back at the white house to restart negotiations. the talks fell apart last night when john boehner walked away from the table blaming the white house for the failure. well, the president pointeded a finger at the gop. the two appeared at back to back news conferences. >> it is hard to understand why speaker boehner would walk away from this kind of deal if it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue. the sdmroo the white house moved the goal post. there was an agreement with the white house and $800 billion in re new. it's the president who walked away from his agreement and demanded more money at the last minute. >> well, joining me now nbc white house correspondent mike vicara. good morning to you, mike. what is the big sticking point here? how did things go wrong so fast, or is that only our perception of it? >> yeah, you know, you are absolutely right. it just collapsed. these te
to agree on something balanced as long as it's big. in the house r there are republicans ideologically opposed to anything that increases revenue. now all the government deficit projections are based on the idea bush tax cuts expire for everyone, according to current statute, the end of next year. if you regard not only any change in the law that reduces the deficit as unacceptable but any failure to change the law is also unacceptable, then it's going to be very hard to pass anything through the house other than perhaps the mcconnell plan, without the savings in it. >> we're hearing from harry reid using the phrase, "time is of the essence," hearing that over and over again and taking us to the brink. do you get the feeling we are actually inching any closer to clenching a deal? >> i think the mcconnell proposal, with some savings we can all agree to, may very well end up being the package. it's very important to the president we have a 3.5, 4$4.5 trillion package. woe may not in this short time agree to more than a $5 million down payment and vague creation of commission goals, state
to other states and has been trying in a very big way of spreading the gospel of making it harder to vote all across the country. not just in kansas, but everywhere. earlier this week chris coback wrote urging politicians in other states to do what he and sam brownback have done in kansas, the case republicans broadly make for the urgent need for these new make it harder to vote laws is that voter fraud is wide spread across the country and a real threat. as evidence, there were 221 incidents of voter fraud reported in kansas between 1997 and 2010. seven of which yielded convictions. that's the evidence. 13 years, 7 convictions. convictions? detailed in a report from mr. coback's office in kansas. they consist of the following. one instance of electioneering, so campaigning too close to a polling place and six incidents of double voting, people voting in kansas or another state or two different counties in kansas. again, the seven convictions that are evidence to make voting harder is one case of electioneering and six cases of double voting. here's the thing, whether or not those seven c
big? what would you get rid of? >> i was one of the folks last week who introduced an amendment that said, let's at least freeze defense spendsing. it's not a very popular thing for a republican to do. i like defense, it's important to me. we only got 65 democrats and only 70 republicans. i'm willing to put everything on the table to be serious about spending reductions. >> what do we do about the big entitlements that go through the roof as people get older and older. you can't limit the number of people turning 65 by law. how do you deal with the cost increase? >> let's start by being honest with ourselves. i think the president did that this week. if you read his veto message about cut, cap and balance, he says the only reasons he opposes a balanced budget amendment is that it prevents us from keeping our promises to the seniors. what he's saying is what we have been telling folks back home, you cannot balance the budget without changing medicare, medicaid and social security. you simply can't do it. the folks back home tell you they want a balanced budget amendment. >> but t
this thing? this big cut, cap and balance has nothing in it. i had a hunch it wouldn't be in there. i did something that nobody is doing in your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? >> senator coburj introduced a plan -- >> it's not the coburn plan. it's the bumper sticker. >> the house has a plan. >> why do you keep saying this? >> chris, chris -- >> have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know there's something in there -- i'm reading it right now and -- >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. it's vapor, there is no plan, because there's no leadership. >> todd, the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts over the -- >> there is no plan. >> that was a hostage video, and he is being held hostage by the tea party republicans. >>> let's go to the outlet pass as they say in football. president clinton has weighed in. he writes, quote, clinton says he would invoke the so-called constitutional option to raise the nation's debt ceiling, quote, without hesitation and force the courts to s
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
or a sensation. any sense of that? >> the big story here, absolute absolutely. whether used as a mop. a ginger head mop. >> we'll have to leave it there. i'm matt miller in for dylan. "hardball" starting right now. >>> so what's the deal? let's play some "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm in for chris matthews tonight. leading off, deal or no deal. all day long there's been word that a deal between president obama and speaker john bane zer boehner is in the works to save the u.s. from default. pub lkly both sides are denying it. it's clear adults on both sides are trying to avoid default. how do you get to an agreement when pea tae tea parters are saying no deal with tax increases and democrats are saying, no deal without them? we crunched numbers and default would seem to affect almost every american home. >>> also, does michele bachmann have mi have migraines? may be debilitated for days at time or something we would have never mentioned about a male candidate? >>> how did an anti-american terrorist become so trusted by u.s. officials in afghanistan he was allowed close eno
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
the spending part is a real big issue for a lot of american people. >> isn't it also the issue revenue, michael, they're not just talking about spending. they were talking about revenue when reid said, okay, fine, to the chagrin of some of es, said i'll take revenue off the table. >> what does that tell you, reverend? then you say no, we don't want to do that. >> but what does that tell you? the president has been all over the place without a plan since the beginning of is the year. the fact of the matter is at one point he wanted a clean debt bill, then was willing to accept one. at one point think say we want taxes, and then reid puts out a plan that, yeah, we'll do that. the only consistent argument that has been made is made by republicans saying no to the spending. >> no if it's reid, no if it's boehner, i mean -- >> where it gets back to the plan -- he'll sign it. >> michael, i don't understand how, in the face of the data of the american people is it that the republicans are tone-deaf or just don't care? >> i don't know. >> i don't know what kind of constitution these house republicans b
and msnbc's coverage continues right now. >>> tax grab -- big airlines decide not to pass on savings from the temporary government tax halt to consumers. >>> and sticker shock -- a japanese department store offers one of the most expensive box lunches ever. good morning, i'm amara sohn, those stories and more are straight ahead on "first look" on msnbc. >>> we begin this morning with dueling over the debt. president obama and house speaker, john boehner escalated the battle over the debt limit last night. they both appealed to american television viewers in speeches that reflect the two sides being farther apart than ever on the issue. nbc's tracey potts has more from washington. >> we're now one week away from the deadline for default and it looks like the white house and congress are no closer to a deal. >> this is no way to run the greatest country on earth. it's a dangerous game that we've never played before. and we can't afford to play it now. >> reporter: president obama is taking his behind closed doors fight public, urging taxpayers to pressure republicans into co
congress in high esteem. >> we as the new majority in the house. >> failing on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we implore them. murdoch is also note blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck. >> he doesn't stack up. >> the 80-year-old appeared confused. >> here said yes, i'm in charge. >> someone tried to get i believe to rupert murdoch. >> a man with a shaving cream pie leaps past her husband and attempted to smash rupert murdoch in the face. >> that are looks like a spice. >> can you say it was glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows closer, house republicans chose to spend this day in debate and on a floor vote on a bill that the president has promised to veto if it somehow miraculously passed the senate, which it won't. republicans are not calling it the cut cap and balance bill because it drastically cuts spending and caps future spending and would guarantee future balanced guj et through a balanced amendment to the constitution. that would require a $2/3 majority. it was a debate over a bill that
. >> whether you get the big or not, you know this won't pass the senate. >> i don't know if it will or won't. >> do you believe we should raise the ceiling? yes or no. >> if the senate is responsibility, then cut, cap and balance will pass. >> let me ask you a question -- do you agree with the president that we need to raise the ceiling, president obama? >> i will vote to raise the debt ceiling if we address the long-term issue of federal insolvency caused by -- if we do not address the long-term issue, the risk associated with piling on higher and higher debt loads, if we don't address that, then, no, sir, i will not vote for the debt ceiling. >> ronald railinger, who was someone i'm sure you admire, let me show you what he said about the dead ceiling, maybe you should tell your colleagues this. >> i'm familiar with this quote. >> congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. this brinksmanship threatens the holders of government bonds, those who rely on associate security and vet ran benefits. the united states has a special responsi
mean, it ain't $4.7 trillion. you know how big this is? this is bigger than the health care bill and the stimulus package two times over. this is the largest can cut that's ever been proposed by any president in the history of the united states. and boehner turned it down. now, you tell me, do you think they really want to do a deal? now, this ship has left the harbor. but at a time, this is where the president was ready to go. and to visualize that and what it means to the american people is amazing. and what does boehner do? he comes back on national television and says that it's president obama who is creating the crisis atmosphere. >> obviously, i expect that bill can and will pass the senate and be sent to the president for a signature. and if the president signs it, the crisis atmosphere that he has created will simply disappear. >> let's see. i've never written one of these before. four -- how do you do that? do you just put a point there or do you do that? i've never written one this big. four point seven trillion and zero dollars, right? they turned that down. nancy pelo
is not one of the big players in all of this. he has taken a role where he made is clear on the floor where he is fully supportive. he said what needed to be said. throw sug port there. but privately many other senators are telling us mccon sell working on a deal. mcconnell's aides say no, that's not going on. if you piece these things together, you get the sense where someone who thinks he can see the end game, thought i had it a while back and the opportunity for members of congress to disapprove a debt ceiling vote, which is part of the mechanics of hoop jumping legislatively is actually a plus for some tea party members who don't want to be on board right now. second ago, paul ducked under the camera to get to another location. he is another one i was thinking of. when you vote against the debt ceiling but give the president that authority that might be way for everybody to get what they want. it is of course too soon to see how it will factor out. but watching mix mcconnell, you will see someone who gets a sense of how things work and to see how he uses the power he earned all this tim
strong is the right wing here? how big is this pool of people that could produce such a person? >> that pool of people, i would say, is very, very limited. what we see here is a rather extreme single instance, rather than something representative. >> reporter: the maximum punishment in norway for any crime, 21 years in president. if convicted the 32-year-old suspect will be back on the streets when he's 53 years old. >> we'll hear from martin late. >> americans are expressing their support for norway. on saturday mourns are created a makeshift memorial in washington, d.c., where people left flowers, flags, and candles and cards by a statue in front of the norwegian embassy. president obama offered his condolences to the people of norway. >>> golfer suzanne peterson of norway expressed her sorrow by wearing a black arm band participating in the masters in france. the number three ranked play in the world says she's deeply upset by friday's bombing and shooting deaths calling it the biggest disaster in norway's history. >>> for the latest on the massacre in norway, including new
backed bill included big spending cuts, a cap on spending and a constitutional amendment. >> it's a correct approach. this is fundamentally a spending problem. >> it passed in the house earlier this house. >> this vote the yeas are the 34. >> today majority leader harry reid grudgingly scheduled a senate vote. it failed just as he predicted. >> this is a very, very bad piece of legislation. >> today's vote could clear the way for one of several compromise deals. >> we all know mr. president there are talks going on between president obama and speaker boehner. >> this was a bit of hope yesterday when "the new york times" reported a possible deal between president obama and house speaker boehner. both sides quickly denied it. >> there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. >> there is no deal. no deal publicly, no deal privately. there is absolutely no deal. >> but he didn't say they're not talking about it. >> we've got to keep the lines of communication open. we talked about fall back options if in fact cut, cap and balance does go down. i do think that it's our obligation to h
as long as it's part of a big deal. yesterday, he called democratic leaders and later, republicans to the white house for more talks. gop leaders called those meetings productive. then there's the renewed gang of six plan, which offers a blueprint for a deal. >> devil is in the details. >> it doesn't have the stamp now of the committees on the house and senate side and that is going to be essential. >> but it has problems, too. some liberal members worry about its impact on social security and medicare, and the closed door meetings that led to the plan. >> we are an anti-gang group. we are trying to suppress the growth of gangs. we think that it is not healthy for washington. >> the negotiations could go down to the wire, with the nation's spending power hanging in the balance. >> it isn't perfect but when the alternative is we're going to drive this country over the cliff, i think we got to start with something that actually gets the job done. >> the one thing we've been committed to is getting a solution. >> mike, where do we stand? >> reporter: we're 14 days out. i just got an e
. but there are two big things. most damaging of all, he was pressed several times on whether he had had any conversations with all of his various contacts and friends at rupert murdoch's company in the u.k. about a $12 billion attempt to buy out the reminder of bskyb, the big broadcaster over there. this was a deal that the british government has quasi-judicial authority to approve or deny. all he could say is he had no inappropriate conversations. he kept using that phrase. frankly, it didn't sound like the members of parliament really bought that line. the second thing, a really explosive claim, that someone in the senior government, a senior government official had been hacked and bugged while andy coulson was there. these kinds of allegations are -- they just keep cropping up every day and it doesn't look like this kind of statement or investigations are going to end any time soon. >> yeah, we could be early in the game at the moment. michael, i want to play some sound from yesterday's testimony, what we heard there in parliament. take a listen to this first. >> i don't know. i am now a
, as republicans, as the new majority in this house. >> failing on the big things is something they choose to do. >> we emplore the other side to get serious. >> when is the house going to stop the charade? >> the gang of six is still trying to lead. >> it's a far cry from the paul ryan budget. >> we thought this was the gang of six, dead and buried. >> now the gang of six is a gang of seven. >> two parts, there's always a second act. >> gotten rave reviews from a lot of folks. frlgs colleagues really liked it. >> when does somebody have to say uncle? >> murdoch is also not taking the blame. >> insisting that he is not to blame. >> london calling. >> tried to pass the buck today. >> just doesn't really stack up. >> the 80-year-old also appeared confused. >> he said yes, i'm in charge of this company. >> somebody jumped over to, i believe, get to rupert murdoch. >> somebody with a pie, wendi murdoch leaped past her husband. >> she's feisty, i've met her. >> if i remember correctly, that looks like a spike. >> you can always say with glitter. >> as the deadline for raising the debt ceiling grows c
administration, and so in terms of the general framework, everyone is on board, and the big obstacle has been that while we are willing to give the president a little running room to discuss that framework, the republicans have said no to even talking about the revenue piece. >> and yet there is some anger, isn't there, from democrats about the extent to which the president is prepared to compromi compromise, but isn't he right the do so given the perilous state of the debt ceiling discussions and the impending deadline? >> well, first of all, there is no agreement. there are a lot of rumors flying around about what may or may not be in an agreement. for example yesterday there was a story that the white house agreed to $3 trillion in cuts and no revenues and that is what understandably got a lot of people worked up. the white house has been clear today and from the beginning that any balanced plan is going to require real revenue. so i think that it is important for us to, you know, focus on what the president says actually will be in the plan and not what some of the rumors suggest. again,
with political philosophy in the house. as the debt line approaches and house republicans are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got t
and boehner plans, the big difference is the boehner plan forces us to raise the debç ceiling again and forces us to accept a $1.8 trillion or more in cuts from the so-called super commission, and if we don't do it, we go through another crises. he also demands a vote on the budget amendment. i think you could get something more rational to incentivize another plan down the road and have something with enough pressure coming from the markets, both parties could vote for. >> you make it sound like if reasonable people had a conversation about this there might actually be a solution, so thanks for being on and talking with us today. >> glad to be here. >> that was ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, ask yourself, would you -- no, not you, nancy. would you want john boehner's job right now, trying to placate a gaggle of angry tea partiers and stave off an economic calamity at the same time? i suspect there are moments even he doesn't want this job, but he's got it, and we need john boehner to get bet
is the big bad government is a threat to us. the consumer protection bureau as most americans understand is the government protecting them from abuse by private financial institutions. and they are terrified that the public will see that there is value to a public institution that can prevent them from being abused by private institutions because it undercuts the whole rationale that the government is always bad, always a problem. and that's why we are fighting so hard for it. >> congressman barney frank, democrat of massachusetts, ranking democrat on the financial committee. thank you for your time tonight. >>> texas governor, and gonna run for president guy, rick perry made a very surprising decision today that is going to upset some of his most ardent supporters. i'll tell you about it with a smile when i come back. k of pos. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of
this to be a short-term deal. let's look for the big fix. the president says, luke, let's go for the big fix and now the republicans are going, wait a minute. what gives? luke. >> politics is the art of the possible. a lot of folks on capitol hill feel right now that a short-term solution is the only thing possible because of the eight-day time window that you mentioned. that being said, there are two very different plans which you talked about in the introduction which are going through capitol hill right now. speaker boehner plan is going to have an extension, which gets us through the wipter. i'm told that speaker boehner's going to brief his house republican conference at 2:00 p.m. about the details of that plan. won't get extremely specific. then for all intensive purposes it looks from discussions i've had with certain aides that you can see as early as wednesday a house of representatives votes on speaker boehner's plan. harry reid is going to go his own way with a $2.7 trillion reduction plan across the board. both of these contessa are different than any of the grand bargains. reid's extend
its act together? >> undoubtedly washington is broken. the big problem, though, is that you have two sides who are still way, way far apart, and the clock is sticking. i mean, we have to have an agreement by tuesday, or interest rates not only for the federal government, but really for average people with regard to auto loans, variable rather mortgages, everything else, start going up. the possibility, thomas, is those interest rates could go up very, very dramatically. that will bring the economy to a screeching halt. that would mean that the jobs crisis we have right now would become even larger. nobody wants that, or at least they say they don't want that, but after listening to a lot of the pontifications last night, i'm not sure. >> this is a clip from the president's address last evening, describing what government is like. take a listen. >> we can't allow the american people to become collateral damage to washington's political warfare. the american people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government. >> certainly most of us think
and debt situation. if you take major parts of the budget off the table, the problem is so big we won't bo able to fix it and the politics are such that it's going to be impossible to get everybody around the table to come one a deal. it really is time for everybody to put these lines in the sand aside and start trying to fix the problem, which is what i think is gang of six did this week breathes a lot of new life into this whole discussion of how do we fix this problem in a way to get a lot of people to sign on and by doing it smartly that's going to help tremendously. >> do you think that the market, the rating agencies and others looking at it from the outside will take it seriously if there is some sort of agreement, a handshake whatever you call it between the president and the speaker of the house that has 217 votes and can get through the house, that there's an agreement for things that will be triggered down the road, is that going to be good enough, tax reform down the road? >> there's a lot of risk. people tend not to believe politicians doing hard things later. at the same time
commentary on how washington and big business need to start hiring. good to have you with us tonight, folks. it's an unbelievable day of news coming out of washington, d.c. house speaker john boehner, i guess you could say is finding out the hard way that a stiff drink and round of golf just isn't going to solve this problem. the speaker is politically hog-tied in his own caucus. he doesn't have the votes. the american people are now witnessing the hourglass being turned on the american economy. going to be a lot of losers if they don't get it together. disaster looms and the tea partiers just don't seem to give a damn. a vote on boehner's bill was scheduled for 6:15 tonight. it never happened. boehner is still trying to strong arm the tea party membership of his caucus into doing some kind of a deal to move it over to the senate. congressman louie gomer left boehner's office and said he was "a bloodied and beaten no." so what are we witnessing here right now, folks? this is a major victory for the tea partiers. them holding out and not falling prey to the horse trading that takes place in
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